he's only going to help president romney. ladies and gentlemen, this is what the problem is back there. we've become so isolated. i'm going to work with governor romney if he becomes president or president obama. we have to make sure that we tackle this problem. for 36 years my opponent's been back there, and we haven't had a solution. at ibm if you're in a position and you don't fix something, you're fired, you're terminated, you're done. >> moderator: let's go to our next question. it's from randy parker, ceo of the utah farm bureau. it'll go to mr. howell. mr. parker. >> senator hatch, mr. howell, good to be here. our national debt is clearly a burden on our country and our future financial well being. what do you propose to do to reduce government spending, cut the debt and secure our national security for the future? howell: well, thank you, randy, and i appreciate the farm bureau, and randy was actually one of those that my grandfather mentored from our farm down in castleville, utah. you know, the biggest issue we're f